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For breakfast, you say?

User:

I define a new word, the podition. A podition is any object that can fit on a podium. Is a computer a podition ? Why ?

ChatGPT:

The term "podition" is a newly coined word, and its definition as "any object that can fit on a podium" is quite specific. Whether or not a computer can be considered a "podition" depends on the size and design of the podium in question, as well as the specific characteristics of the computer.

If the podium is large enough and designed to accommodate objects of various sizes, then a computer could potentially be considered a podition if it fits on the podium without exceeding its space or causing any issues. However, if the podium is small or not designed to hold objects like a computer, then it may not qualify as a podition.

In summary, whether a computer is a podition or not depends on the podium's size and design and whether the computer can comfortably fit on it without causing any problems. The term "podition" itself is a new and specific concept, so its application may vary depending on context.

User:

Using common sense definitions of a computer and a podium, is a computer a podition?

ChatGPT:

Using common sense definitions of a computer and a podium, a computer is typically not considered a "podition." A computer is an electronic device used for processing and storing data, while a podium is a raised platform or stand typically used for holding notes, books, or supporting a speaker during a presentation. These two objects serve very different purposes and have distinct characteristics.

A computer is not designed to be placed on a podium, and it would generally be impractical to do so. A podium is meant for supporting objects like papers, books, or notes during a presentation, not electronic devices like computers. Therefore, in common usage and understanding, a computer would not be classified as a "podition."



>For breakfast, you say?

Yes and it's honestly pretty funny that you think this proves otherwise. The error is mine. a computer is not always small enough to fit on a podium. It's not about a "common sense" definition or not. and GPT caught that.

Go ahead and replace computer with any object that is always small enough to fit on a podium.


The mental gymnastics are beautiful and entertaining.

Google image "podium". Google image "computer". The vast majority of computers shown can be placed on the vast majority of podiums shown.

But again, as the other commenter points out, this is abductive reasoning.

In addition to getting lost in the irrelevant weeds of "these two objects serve very different purposes and have distinct characteristics", ChatGPT also fails to point out that there are 2 common definitions for podium - one made for lecturing, on which you could place most modern computers that aren't 30kg hunks of metal (all of my university lecturers definitely had computers on the podium). And one made for humans, on which you could definitely place any bulky desktop computer short of a mainframe.

What this really shows though is that LLM output is a mirror in which people will read mostly what they want to read which matches their narrative.


>The mental gymnastics are beautiful and entertaining.

Sure

>But again, as the other commenter points out, this is abductive reasoning.

Deduction is divining the effect from rule and cause. The rule is the definition of the podition, the cause is that a computer is small enough to fit a podium and the effect is that a computer is a podition.

>Google image "podium". Google image "computer". The vast majority of computers shown can be placed on the vast majority of podiums shown.

Deduction does not deal with probable statements. The rule and cause must both be true. My cause is not always true.

Like i said, i genuinely do think it's funny that you read all that and decided it was absence of reasoning. Just kind of shows the state of things.




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